We’re Entering the Era of Private Software — Maxim Khailo

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Open source you share. Proprietary you buy. Maxim Khailo argues the next era is software you can’t buy at all—and states the one condition that would end it. Plus why a deployed model doesn’t learn, and the energy bill under every agent fleet.

Chapters

1. 0:00 Why I wanted to talk to Maxim

2. 1:14 From HERE Maps and a quant fund to the limits of deep learning

3. 11:18 What has actually changed since 2012 — and what hasn’t

4. 15:13 How we got here, and why a deployed model doesn’t learn

5. 25:25 100 million agents would draw the entire energy of the UK

6. 26:13 Where does the harness end and the model begin?

7. 31:50 Thetix, and what efficient context actually buys you

8. 40:20 Why the CLI became the operating system for agents

9. 51:37 “We’re entering the era of private software”

10. 57:41 The caveat — this only holds while the tokens keep flowing

11. 1:00:02 The energy crunch underneath all of it

12. 1:05:52 Is there a moat in the models?

13. 1:13:17 Closed-loop learning, and the hardware it will take

14. 1:28:24 Agent fleets, and where orchestration breaks down

15. 1:43:01 The Seattle boom, and what Maxim is most worried about losing

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Disclosure

Adil Wali is an investor in Thetix. Maxim Khailo is associated with the company, and it is discussed in the episode from 31:49.